Session #3 w/ Shane Hipps & Rob Bell

  • 12:14 PM mynameisbrandon – This session will start around 1:45pm EST. See you then.
  • 1:59 PM mynameisbrandon – We are live!
  • 2:00 PM David in Eureka,MO – TX you and Standard for your coverage
  • 2:00 PM mynameisbrandon – @David in Eureka,MO You’re welcome. Thanks for joining!
  • 2:01 PM mynameisbrandon – The internet has been moody. Hang with me if things get slow. I will get back on as soon as I can.
  • 2:01 PM mynameisbrandon – Coming up: Shane Hipps and Rob Bell.
  • 2:02 PM mynameisbrandon – Mitch Albom was just on stage…talking about his new book “A Hole in the Roof.”
  • 2:02 PM mynameisbrandon – Mitch said that babies are born into the world with their fists clenched. They come in as takers. When we die, we must die with our hands open. The only thing we can take with us to the grave is our faith.
  • 2:03 PM mynameisbrandon – Shane Hipps is on the stage. He was a former ad exec for Porsche and is now a Mennonite pastor.

  • 2:03 PM mynameisbrandon – Mitch joked that before Mennonites can become pastors…they have to be ad execs for high-end sports cars!
  • 2:04 PM mynameisbrandon – He said his job as an ad exec was to violate our brains. Hijack some real estate. Then brand our brain with the Porsche logo. And then feed us opinions we thought were our own. Ouch!
  • 2:05 PM mynameisbrandon – “Christianity is fundamentally a communication event.”
  • 2:05 PM mynameisbrandon – Burning bush, stone tablets, poets, prophets, even a donkey. God is in the business of communication.
  • 2:10 PM mynameisbrandon – Shane is going to take a wrecking ball to the assumption that “the methods may change but the message does not.”
  • 2:10 PM Joshua David Christy – Do you mean Mitch or Shane?
  • 2:10 PM mynameisbrandon – How you say matters more than what you say.
  • 2:10 PM mynameisbrandon – @Joshua David Christy Shane. Shane Hipps is on the stage.
  • 2:11 PM mynameisbrandon – As an ad exec, he learned that images are more powerful in our brains than printed words.
  • 2:12 PM mynameisbrandon – (I love the way Shane is working the stage. It’s a big X and he is walking all over it.)
  • 2:13 PM mynameisbrandon – He is showing an ad on the big screen.
  • 2:13 PM mynameisbrandon – The tagline of the ad is “movies are made to be seen.” The medium IS the message.
  • 2:14 PM mynameisbrandon – This puts us in a ministry pickle. We don’t want to change the message…but we have to change the medium. And changing the medium IS changing the message. What to do?
  • 2:15 PM mynameisbrandon – Mark 2:22 — Jesus has tread this ground before us. The wine is NEW. And the container, the wineskins, must be new too.
  • 2:15 PM mynameisbrandon – Jesus says “you must update your methods and your message.”
  • 2:16 PM Joshua David Christy – Is he playing the “March of the Emperor’s” ad from France? hahah, I love that add.
  • 2:16 PM mynameisbrandon – @Joshua David Christy LOL! Yes.
  • 2:18 PM mynameisbrandon – If you think about it, the message has changed through the course of history. The message of liberation is not the same message of comfort for the afflicted. The message of grace for the sinner is not the same message of judgment for the nation of Israel.
  • 2:18 PM mynameisbrandon – Shane is drawing contradictions: he says the ever-changing gospel of God never changes. How can that be?
  • 2:19 PM mynameisbrandon – He just showed us a baby picture. He pointed out that he doesn’t look the same, sound the same, or act the same NOW as he did when the picture was taken. Yet, he is the SAME MAN.
  • 2:23 PM Brian Mowers – isn’t this more of a perspective thing…the “what part of the elephant are you looking at” kind of thing rather that the message changing?
  • 2:24 PM mynameisbrandon – A guard’s job is to protect a lifeless artifact.
    A gardener’s job is to grow life.
    This world needs more gardeners and less guards.
  • 2:24 PM mynameisbrandon – A guard is motivated by fear.
    A gardener is motivated by love.
  • 2:25 PM mynameisbrandon – The church has too many guards and not enough gardeners.
  • 2:25 PM mynameisbrandon – @Brian Mowers I think you are right.
  • 2:26 PM mynameisbrandon – “There are diamonds in the rock of Scripture that we have yet to discover.”
  • 2:27 PM mynameisbrandon – (I love the way Shane is using the whole stage…talking to all the attendees. The stage is a big X and he has explored all 4 arms of that X.)
  • 2:27 PM mynameisbrandon – Shane just wrapped things up with a challenge to keep things growing, like a gardener.
  • 2:29 PM mynameisbrandon – Someone is singing…I am trying to figure out who it is.
  • 2:30 PM mynameisbrandon – I feel like I should know who this is!
  • 2:34 PM mynameisbrandon – I think this guy is a relatively unknown. But he rocks and writes and sings honestly. He is telling the story now of his wife who had a horsing accident and became a quadriplegic.
  • 2:40 PM mynameisbrandon – He is doing an amazing new rendition of “Come Thou Fount.”
  • 2:44 PM mynameisbrandon – Rob Bell is now on stage.
  • 2:44 PM mynameisbrandon – Folks started cheering for Rob before he even made it up the stairs. Apparently, a crowd favorite.
  • 2:45 PM mynameisbrandon – Rob scratched his original talk for today. He felt like God was saying it was too safe. So today, he is sharing lots of new things…things never shared in public before.
  • 2:47 PM mynameisbrandon – Rob first shared a story of a pastor friend he was meeting with who rarely took days off for rest.
  • 2:47 PM mynameisbrandon – He shared another story of a pastor who preached 5 services every weekend.
  • 2:48 PM mynameisbrandon – One more story of a preacher who felt that his work was insignificant at his “small” church of 300.
  • 2:49 PM mynameisbrandon – The question for today: is bigger better?
  • 2:50 PM Brian Mowers – this should be interesting.
  • 2:51 PM mynameisbrandon – John 6 is where Rob is hanging out.
  • 2:51 PM mynameisbrandon – @Brian Mowers I’m curious to hear Rob. Have read most of his books. Never seen him live.
  • 2:52 PM mynameisbrandon – In John 6, Jesus has to confront some misconceptions.
  • 2:52 PM mynameisbrandon – Jesus talks about his body and his blood…and lots of his disciples desert him.
  • 2:52 PM mynameisbrandon – Sometimes the crowds thin and the people leave.
  • 2:54 PM mynameisbrandon – Rob is talking about how, when his church started, they did a sermon series on the role of women in the church. Needless to say, it did not go as well as he had hoped.
  • 2:58 PM mynameisbrandon – He said hundreds, maybe even a thousand, left his church. And it was painful.
  • 2:58 PM mynameisbrandon – If you talk about hard things, people will get upset.
  • 2:58 PM mynameisbrandon – Sometimes the crowds thin…and you see Jesus standing there asking if they are going to leave to.
  • 2:59 PM mynameisbrandon – Now to Luke 22…the story of the widow’s offering.
  • 2:59 PM mynameisbrandon – Jesus says she put in more than all the other people.
  • 3:00 PM mynameisbrandon – Rob asks, “Did she really put more in?” Technically, those who put in more put in more. She put in less.
  • 3:00 PM mynameisbrandon – But Jesus changes the rules. Rob calls it “inverse fidelity.”
  • 3:19 PM mynameisbrandon – Rob wonders how we can “rank” churches and put them in “order” whenever we all follow the same Savior who said, “the first shall be last!”
  • 3:20 PM mynameisbrandon – We are called to be a Eucharist…
  • 3:20 PM mynameisbrandon – The word “Eucharist” literally comes from 2 Greek words…good and gift.
  • 3:20 PM mynameisbrandon – Jesus and his body and blood are the good gift. And, since we follow Jesus…we are called to be a Eucharist in our communities.
  • 3:20 PM mynameisbrandon – Jesus gave himself…and we are to follow suit.
  • 3:21 PM mynameisbrandon – Jesus says in John 5 that he only does what he sees his Father doing.
  • 3:21 PM mynameisbrandon – Jesus’ work comes from that place…from his Father. It is not a burden, because God would not give us a burden. But, He can call us to hard places.
  • 3:22 PM mynameisbrandon – We are called to only be ourselves…not what others expect us to be.
  • 3:22 PM mynameisbrandon – Rob points out that ancient Rabbis believed that the 10th commandment, “Do not covet,” is actually a reward for observing the first 9 commandments.
  • 3:23 PM mynameisbrandon – For example…if you obey the first 9 commandments, you WILL NOT WANT anybody else’s life or stuff. You will be pleased with yourself.
  • 3:23 PM mynameisbrandon – We should not covet other leaders. When this happens, we lose focus on the gospel that God has revealed for us.
  • 3:24 PM mynameisbrandon – Shifting gears…is there anyway that we have neglected to take care of ourselves under the illusion that we are supposed to be going and caring for others all of the time?
  • 3:24 PM mynameisbrandon – It is more harmful to us…and to the church as a whole…if we fail to keep for ourselves a day of rest.
  • 3:25 PM mynameisbrandon – The paradox is that, once we slow down, all the things we are trying to accomplish will be accomplished better!
  • 3:26 PM Joshua David Christy – I’ve seen a lot of pastors and ministers fall apart because they didn’t keep a day of rest. I’m fortunate enough to have learned that before going into ministry.
  • 3:26 PM mynameisbrandon – Rob’s stuff is good…as always…but it seemed to jump around quite a bit. Lots of different ideas. I am having a hard time finding the cohesiveness.
  • 3:28 PM mynameisbrandon – My takeaway: I need to reflect on his point that the 10th commandment might be a reward for obeying the first 9. Very interesting, ancient Rabbi teaching.
  • 3:29 PM mynameisbrandon – Singing another song: another new version of an old hymn. This time, “It Is Well.”
  • 3:29 PM Brian Mowers – lesson: we should try to spend more time talking to ancient rabbis.
  • 3:30 PM mynameisbrandon – @Brian Mowers I don’t have any ancient Rabbi friends. Do you?
  • 3:31 PM Brian Mowers – uh…sub lesson: find more ancient rabbi friends.
  • 3:31 PM Joshua David Christy – I have tea every tuesday morning with Hillel and Shammai, don’t you know? 😉
  • 3:31 PM mynameisbrandon – A common theme I am hearing today: as leaders, we tend to compare ourselves with others more quickly. But, this can be very dangerous…and takes away from what God is doing in OUR lives.
  • 3:33 PM mynameisbrandon – Coming up next session: Tony Dungy, former head coach of the Indianapolis Colts. I am VERY excited to hear from him.
  • 3:33 PM mynameisbrandon – The next session starts in 30 minutes…4:00pm EST. Check the blog and my Twitter for the link!
  • 3:33 PM mynameisbrandon – Thanks for being here!
  • 3:35 PM Brian Mowers – thanks brandon!

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